tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6279678409089205149.post5968199886748135376..comments2024-03-23T16:19:36.154+05:30Comments on A Potpourri of Vestiges: Talvar (2015): Meghna Gulzar's propaganda film about the 2008 Noida double murder caseMurtaza Ali Khanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09747183316188241022noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6279678409089205149.post-62643823620736658102015-10-14T23:23:55.143+05:302015-10-14T23:23:55.143+05:30I'm not sure where you get your information fr...I'm not sure where you get your information from, but there are a lot of assumptions and some false information here. The contents of her laptop (did she even have a laptop?) have never been disclosed, so the accusation of filth on it is wrong. Second, male servants did not look after her alone - after school she was at her grandparents home which was a matter of metres away. There is no basis for saying the Talwars were anything but normal upper middle class professionals prior to this tragedy. As far as timing, the appeal has been pending for almost two years and given the backlog in Allahabad no one yet knows when the appeal will be heard, so no one has timed anything.Vidhya Kumarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6279678409089205149.post-74823746133321127992015-10-10T15:45:50.504+05:302015-10-10T15:45:50.504+05:30Thanks for your deeply insightful views... I could...Thanks for your deeply insightful views... I couldn't have put it in better words!Murtaza Alihttp://www.apotpourriofvestiges.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6279678409089205149.post-28824613130007218272015-10-10T07:34:52.391+05:302015-10-10T07:34:52.391+05:30I watched this movie yesterday. No servant can mur...I watched this movie yesterday. No servant can murder in this manner as they are suggesting in this movie. People at that level will break very easily with police interrogation, let alone CBI. You do not need narco tests for that.<br />Furthermore, the timing of the film just before the Talwar's appeal hearing before the Allahabad High Court points to serious propoganda and mischief. The Talwar couple would have dragged this movie to court had it not been the case. At every instant they were filing appeals after appeals in the Supreme Court, why not now?<br />Also, no parent will allow a 14 year old girl to be looked after by male servants in this manner. These guys had no clue what was happening in there own house. It is a fact that her laptop was full of filth, while her parents were busy doing what?AC (Delhi)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6279678409089205149.post-66676942971023558132015-10-09T19:59:14.534+05:302015-10-09T19:59:14.534+05:30Thanks for sharing your views so passionately! But...Thanks for sharing your views so passionately! But let me tell you that even a small trace of evidence admissible in court is good enough to start a judicial proceeding. If the CBI court's findings were so far off from the reality why didn't the Allahabad High Court grant bail to the Talwars? Subjectivity is fine but an artist should also be responsible enough while tackling with issues that may affect the actual outcome of an important case. Imagine someone tomorrow making a movie proving Manu Sharma's innocence in Jessica Lal's case? Talwars' actions have always been suspicious in my opinion but the movie never tries to touch upon that. I have seen so many police procedures (movies) and critiques on judiciary and police (Chaitanya Tamhane's Court is a great example) and in my opinion Talvar has nothing new to offer. But I do respect your views and I am sure that you have your own reasons to like the film. So, let's agree to disagree on this one! :-)Murtaza Alihttp://www.apotpourriofvestiges.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6279678409089205149.post-4963277684290374892015-10-09T15:08:01.846+05:302015-10-09T15:08:01.846+05:30Nishant, first and foremost, this is my blog and s...Nishant, first and foremost, this is my blog and so it's not that I am desperate to use space. I have written 3000 word long articles in past... you can call me verbose, alright, but I don't write for the sake of writing it (propaganda films used to be a separate genre in the good old days and so talking about a seminal work like Battleship Potemkin is a must when trying to explain what the idea of a propaganda film is all about). Anyway, here's my response to your other queries:<br /><br />Majority of the people missed the propaganda in Talvar. All I see is people raving the movie's objectivity which completely escaped me. Throughout the film I thought the makers were driven by some ulterior motive. While everyone has the right to do as he/she pleases, especially an artist, I also feel that a film projected as a docudrama shouldn't be as biased as Talvar. The film crushes and ridicules all other possibilities and advocates that the Talwars are innocent. Bhardwaj and Co want to be the judge and the jury. While it does show the different possibilities, it also weakens the logic... as a docudrama, it was only supposed to present facts. The batchmate remark was very insulting in my opinion (that CDI guy was doing it to prevent his Sikh batchmate)... also, the final scene that shows the father showering Shruti with love was very much in sync with the film's propaganda. In fact, Irrfan's character is more or less the Point of View character and we see most of the film from his perspective.Murtaza Alihttp://www.apotpourriofvestiges.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6279678409089205149.post-23755887090096340032015-10-09T14:26:40.798+05:302015-10-09T14:26:40.798+05:30Hi,
I don't agree totally with your review ab...Hi,<br /><br />I don't agree totally with your review about the movie. <br /><br />Yes there is indeed a bias in the movie regarding the claimed innocence of the parents, but the talk of "hidden propaganda" seems too overboard. I don't see any need of bringing references of propaganda movies like Battleship Potemkin or Triumph of Will in order to compare it with a movie like Talvar, which is essentially about a murder mystery in a upper-middle class family, than a larger hidden agenda attached to it. Even your reference to Vishal Bhardwaj's movie Haider is totally out of the place and ridiculous as the director of the movie is Meghna Gulzar and not Vishal Bhardwaj, who has only worked on the screenplay. <br /><br />When you say that, "While the movie may succeed in its motive to change the public opinion about the Talwar couple, it fails to pack a punch as work of cinematic art.", I am not sure what you mean by that. It is a movie based on a real-life incident and it doesn't give you much scope in terms of exaggerating certain details or modifying the ending. Most of the movie goers know what would be the ending of the movie. <br /><br />It seems that you wanted to write a page long review about the movie and you have just elongated it with unnecessary details, than actual analyzing the movie in a greater detail. <br /><br />That's all I have to say for now. <br /><br />Regards,<br />Nishank<br />Email: onlynishank@gmail.comNishank Nnoreply@blogger.com